DC Stomps AC 2009, Day 3
Saturday, April 25th
I checked out the pool – it was pretty nice. It’s not very deep (basically for wading and laps) and it gets a bit clogged up with little kids, but otherwise it’s decent. They also have a hot tub and a garden for sunbathing. I availed myself of the hot tub, which was a nice change of pace (e.g., NOT poker for a little bit) and very relaxing.
I booked a modest win in my early session, but it was fairly uneventful overall. In the evening I saw a huge German fish (i.e., fnupple) sitting in the $10/$20, so I decided to join him. I think he had been playing higher stakes, so he’s probably just busto. Anyway, MagicMcQ must have thought the same thing because he decided to join us shortly after.
Needless to say this made the game pretty interesting, especially when it got short handed. I was fortunate enough to have the best seat (MagicMcQ and fnupple to my left, the two fish to my right), but was unable to take advantage of it. MagicMcQ kept looking at me funny because I kept folding my big blind getting 5:1 (and once even 7:1) closing the action pre flop. Yes MagicMcQ, I did have bottom 10-15% on all of those hands.
Being card dead was pretty tough with two good, aggressive players behind me as I basically had the choice to fold constantly or attack the fish’s blinds with 52o and hope no one 3-bets me. Plus fnupple continued to beat me in every pot we’ve ever played:
Bad player limps, I pop AJo, fnupple defends, fish calls – three ways to the flop.
Flop: Q82 with two clubs (I have none)
Checked to me, I bet, fnupple check/raises, fish takes two to the face, I call intending to re-evaluate on the turn.
Turn: 7 offsuit
fnupple bets, fish folds, and now that the fish folded I think I should show down AJo unimproved pretty often (folding the T and 9 of clubs and agonizing over offsuit T’s and 9’s).
River: 8 offsuit
fnupple bets and I snap call knowing that his semi-bluff check/raising flop range is huge and none of it got there on the turn or river (club draws, gutters).
He shows me J7o.
As a group I’d say we’re collectively making a bit of a comeback, but we’re definitely still down overall. One thing that helps is that we’re all apparently expert at Texas Hold ‘Em Bonus.
Late in our session (so actually early in the am the next day) fnupple, HLS2k6, OnTheRail15, and I decided to put in a short pit session. We all started off in for $100, but calling the floor over to confirm another buy of $100 quickly became a joke as we collectively added on for hundreds 8-10 more times.
I’m not going to explain all the game mechanics, but see the Wizard of Odds site for a complete explanation.
The game itself is pretty funny, because you basically can’t fold preflop, and seeing the flop often determines what you should do with both of your next two bets (e.g., if you make a pair on the flop you often need to bet the last two streets, regardless of how the turn comes).
Overall the mechanics (i.e., NOT strategy) are very simple and fun. It’s also amusing to laugh at people who play badly in very clear situations (e.g., AQo failing to bet on a K52 rainbow flop – remember they’re up against a random hand for the dealer). In many ways it’s like heads up poker against an opponent who can’t fold and never raises.
Needless to say we had a lot of heads up talent sitting at that table, so it’s pretty funny (imo) that fnupple was the only one who ended up down. HLS and I both shipped about a hundred, but OTR went on a tear, basically flopping good everyhand while progressively betting more and more.
When OnTheRail15 began betting in quarters ($25 chips) he got the dealer to shout out, “Green chip action!” He booked a win of about $1,000, but we never quite got to black chip action ($100). While playing he basically said after every hand, ‘I’m going to keep flopping top pair and beating you (i.e., the dealer) until you guys comp me a room.’
One last highlight of this game was when one of our hands missed but still had showdown value – HLS especially would tend to say, “I beat some hands” when he had things like 8 high (and yes, he did beat 5 and 4 high on a few of those occasions). He also hilariously sang Win with the Ace High every time he held up with a bare ace.
04.28.09
Take notes!
I’ve been having a lot of trouble getting into the $10/$20 at Borgata. Basically I have terrible timing, wait for 2 hours or more on the list and then within an hour of getting seated we end up with minimum two open seats. As a result I’ve been playing a lot of lower limits while I’m waiting.
Overall it’s not terrible. When I sit in a $3/$6 game the players in the game find it funny that I come to the table with two racks of red chips. And obviously I’m a huge favorite in the game. I don’t really know what day these hands are from anymore, but I thought they were kind of interesting:
Early position standard bad player limps, late position player limps, I check my option with J7o.
Flop: Q7x with two clubs
I lead out and get two calls.
Turn: 7 offsuit
I lead out, EP raises, LP folds, I decide my kicker is worth a 3-bet, he caps, I call (I can’t 5 bet – the no cap rule is only in effect if it was heads up at the beginning of the street…not that I think 5 betting would be good here).
River: A of clubs
I check/call.
Villain shows Qx suited in clubs and drags the pot. Pretty standard bad play and beat. But the important thing is that I immediately made a note (mental, but I do miss the notes box I get online) on his play.
I talk about this player type with allstarrt a lot – the ones that jam their combo draws in bad spots. We’re not 100% sure why, but our best guess is that it’s a No Limit inspired play. I’m not sure, but I think that shoving with a flush draw plus pair (even a small one) is a pretty strong play because you have folding equity and usually a decent number of outs when called. The problem is that in Limit Hold ‘Em your folding equity is substantially diminished because the bet size is fixed.
Anyway, a few rounds later the following hand occurred:
A ton (probably like 53) players limp to me, I limp along A4 suited in spades, villain from previous hand limps immediately behind me (he is in position), we see the flop multi-multi way.
Flop: A43 with two clubs
I get checked to, I bet, villain calls, and the field maybe thins to like 17 or so
Turn: 9 offsuit
I get checked to, I bet, villain raises, everyone else folds, I 3-bet, he caps
River: Q offsuit
I check, he bets, I call.
I think a raise could be considered here but the problem is that I don’t really expect to get called by much (exactly Q9 suited in clubs and not much else. I can see that all the draws missed (clubs, wheel draws), so I don’t know if there’s much value in leading out.
He tabled K5 suited in clubs.
04.25.09
Actual poker content
Thursday, April 23rd
My fiancee wanted to play a little low limit hold ‘em, so I sat with her in a $2/$4 game. As expected, the games are incredibly soft and players are terrible. Let me give an example:
I open raise in late position with 2 random cards and get heads up with the big blind.
Flop: AJx twotone
I continuation bet and get called.
I guess it’s relevant to say I had Q8o and the Q gave me a backdoor flush draw.
Turn: J, putting a third suited card on the board
We check around.
River: J offsuit
We check around.
I table my hand and announce, “Q high,” believing there’s a chance I have the best hand against a random poor flop peel. Villain tables QJ and says, “Quads.” Me (thinking), ‘Thanks for putting in no money with the nuts and giving me a free cards to 9 outs on the turn.’
I basically played my A game for four straight hours. Every play I made had a reason and I got value/saved bets in every spot. Perhaps the thing I’m happiest with was that I flipped a chip for every hand.
My goal was to follow Tommy Angelo’s advice and use this chip flip (which is supposed to be done as the cards are dealt) to bring myself to the present. At first I had trouble doing this and wouldn’t flip the chip until later in the hand, but I slowly got used to it and really did feel it helped me focus on my play.
04.23.09
Why shaniac is wrong
Everyone’s probably aware that the first SCOOP was recently completed at Poker Stars. There were many memorable moments from the tournament series, and I want to address one of the incidents from the $10,000+$300 main event.
Greg Raymer (FossilMan) was eliminated from the tournament when he lost with quads (to higher quads). He made a post complaining about the cooler on the 2+2 forums and about how poorly he’s been running in general (link includes a link to the full thread), which set off a small controversy.
shaniac, a well respected tournament player who’s also known for being outspoken responded vitriolically. Let me first say that I have nothing against shaniac and don’t know much of him outside of his reputation. I have never had any direct interaction with him. In fact, I actually like what I do know of shaniac.
That said, I found shaniac’s post disconcerting. Raymer complained about running badly in recent tournaments (which may very well be true) and shaniac essentially responded that he (Raymer) has run well in life (by winning the World Series of Poker Main Event) and thus has no right to complain ever. The problem with this response is that Raymer’s winning the WSOP has absolutely no bearing on how he will run in the future unless you believe in continuous probability.
I’m certain shaniac (who has enjoyed a large amount of success in his own poker career) is smart enough to NOT believe in continuous probability. So it’s a bit unclear why he’s responding to Raymer in this fashion. If Raymer had complained that he has run bad in life and shaniac had objected I’m sure many people would agree with Shane (myself included). But that is not what happened – Raymer simply complained about running bad lately, which can happen to any poker player, regardless of their past results.
One interesting aspect of this recent incident is that Raymer and shaniac had essentially the same conversation about a year ago. Raymer complained about how he was running, which culminated in him inappropriately tearing up a card. At the time, shaniac’s response was remarkably similar to the one he gave following the SCOOP event.
Given this history and the tone of his posts, it’s hard for me to interpret shaniac’s responses (and repeated claims that Raymer used to be one of his poker heroes) as anything other than patronizing. Absolutely Raymer was wrong to rip up a card. But ultimately I don’t see that he has any less right to complain about running bad than any other player. I seriously doubt that shaniac attacks random posters who complain about variance as vigorously as he does Raymer, which is why I think shaniac is out of line.
(One possibly interesting aside: since continuous probability does not exist, Raymer has just as much right to complain about running bad as any other poker player experiencing an ‘equal’ amount of bad luck, including a losing player (yes, losing players can run badly too).)
DC Stomps AC 2009, Day 0.5
Wednesday, April 22nd
See here for full information on how DeucesCracked is going to take over Atlantic City. We’re going to be playing primarily at the Borgata, and in true balla style we have booked a suite as our launching pad.
In the next two days a crew of 12+ DC members will be rolling into AC to dominate all limit hold ‘em action. We have a very strong crew rolling in, with both coasts, the Midwest, and even continental Europe representing. Many of the top mid stakes regulars on Poker Stars and Full Tilt Poker will be in full effect (in all seriousness the mid games on both sites will likely be a bit softer in the next week and a half).
I’ll be giving more updates and probably some photos in the upcoming days. For now it is only day 0.5 because our group is still spread out across the country. In fact, no one is actually in AC yet, but we are converging.
Nfinity joined me late in the day, after somehow managing to miss his flight TWICE and then somehow still arriving at the wrong airport. I honestly can’t really explain how that happened but I will say that he was in the airport the whole time between his first missed flight and his second (meaning he sat in the terminal while his rescheduled flight left without him). Anyway, he eventually to get near the DC (here I mean District of Columbia, not DeucesCracked) area, so with a long drive and a late night on my part I finally managed to get him where he needed to be. Tomorrow we will drive to AC!